Liberty is glorious! No more constant surveillance from an imaginary sky-god! No more meetings or preaching lies and having to do what all the other lobotomised zombies do. Now free to think your own thoughts and know that they are as valid and worthy as anyone else's ideas. No more mental slavery! .............Well done CoH!
Half banana
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Latest update: Finally Free!
by campaign of hate ini haven’t posted here in a while, although i have been keeping an eye on the posts.
i love morpheus bluntness and sbf optimism that jw chariot is going to fall of the cliff imminently!.
as the title suggests, the latest in my life is that i’m finally free!
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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Half banana
Like most of the Bible we are dealing with sacred fictions. The question we could ask is why should there be such conflict regarding the identity and substance of an almighty God and his son?
There is no possible way to verify dogma or doctrines determined by votes, there are no facts available to resolve contradictory mental constructs. This subject incidentally is in turn drawn from even earlier mythology, in this instance sun gods and their sons being the "exact representation of their very being".
Therefore when faced with the impossibility of knowing anything factual about an almighty God, all we can do as Ehrman does (in Cofty's youtube submission, "Evolution of Jesus in early Christianity") is to trace the development of the myths and religious doctrine giving a date and a sociological snapshot of the milieu in which the concepts took root.
Btw, did anyone note how Ehrman speaks here in the "messianic" style of Fred Franz, with the same high pitch for almost half of his talk and going higher still at the paradoxical high points? The only differences being that Ehrman uses a critical analysis of his material and speaks faster than Franz did.
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London Protest 2018
by josephus inwell today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
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Half banana
Well said Phoebe and well done Josephus!
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A film about Jonah
by Sergey Antonov inwho has any thoughts about the new film about the prophet jonah?
how could they divide the entire period into days, if the bible does not say so?
the king ordered them to fast 20 days before the destruction ???!
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Half banana
But a fairytale with brass knobs.
The trope of "three days dead" was a signifyer for a Sun God in ancient literature, later applied to any hero who descends to hell and returns, think Ulysses, three days dead, and Orpheus going to see Eurydice in Hades for example.
Since the sun metaphorically dies for three and a half days at the winter solstice and metaphorically comes back to life again by virtue of the points at which the sun rises and sets having stopped for this period of time, on Christmas day start moving north again on the east horizon (the rebirth of the Sun God)
To attribute this "three days dead" experience to Jesus was to award him the mantle of divine glory as a super-hero. This was a necessary move on the part of the Jesus cult to have this included in scripture because earlier "Christ" literature gave no personal name, just the title; The Christ.
But hey! the more ancient fables which are retold by JW org as if they were true, the more JWs there will be who will wake up, join us and leave the cult to stew in it own ignorant juice. How anyone can see a divine hand at work in last years story of Lot and his daughters, beats me.
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A film about Jonah
by Sergey Antonov inwho has any thoughts about the new film about the prophet jonah?
how could they divide the entire period into days, if the bible does not say so?
the king ordered them to fast 20 days before the destruction ???!
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Half banana
Fairytale!
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The Trinity explained from the Whiteboard
by JW Answers ina lot of people are confused over the teaching of the trinity, some doubt it, some outright deny it, where some can't get their head around it.
the bible supports it through scriptural evidence.
this video explains from the whiteboard the difference between the god of the watchtower to the god in the bible.
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Half banana
Tedious and irrelevant to real life!
To discuss the "truth" of the trinity is precisely as useful and practical as to whether Guy the gorilla was the same person as his father. Nothing useful comes from such debates. It is merely a historical facet of ancient religious belief.
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any fruits from Theocratic victories should go to Jehovah’s honor, and not to the exaltation of any ... organization.
by LaFrancia invery interesting w 50 6/15 pp.
the general principle shown is that any fruits from theocratic victories should go to jehovah’s honor, and not to the exaltation of any individual or organization.
the israelites stripped the midianites of their fine raiment and jewelry; so the truth declared against the world leaders, whether religious or political, commercial or military, strips them of the “higher powers” claim in which they clothe themselves, removes them from their exalted position, plunders the prestige and adoration they once enjoyed, and they lose the flattering titles that allowed them to glitter and shine.
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Half banana
Theocratic victories? This is cult talk!
Theocracies don't have a good track record. ISIS being an example, they have proved to be the most inhuman and blood-thirsty type of regime denying their subject's natural rights to self determination and effectively enslavement to their leaders who are entrusted to interpret "God's will". Theocracy is dystopian.
If God was truly leading JWs then he surely would have not mangled his timing promise. . . and there would only have been one of them!
How then could anyone today claim a theocratic victory? The Watchtower during the course of the 20th century, led by the religious 'certainties' from the mouth and pen of Fred Franz, appeared back then to have a direction and a goal. However with the debacles of 1975 and the "generation of 1914" all of the pronouncements and the hope and religious conviction which went with them lie self evidently disproved and useless.
Jehovah's Witnesses have never had a visible or provable victory except the highly questionable triumph of belief over reason, demanding and getting blind faith from their flock in spite of the availability of factual information and knowledge of the Watchtower's history of total failure.
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Old Magazine, New Perspective
by neat blue dog ingoing through old junk and came across a 22 year old study watchtower, february 1996. looking at all my underlining and marking it was just nauseating how meaningless it all was.
this "study" wasn't study at all, just a by rote exercise, an old jw custom one of the primary motivations of which is to stop others from judging you as "weak" if they don't see it all desecrated, which must surely indicate a vigorous study session.
moving on to other articles i was confronted with more evidence of a cult that i was blind to the first time around, including an article praising those who died for refusing blood such as a pregnant mother and a boy pictured here.. .
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Half banana
Thank you for this insight by looking back at Watchtower material neat blue dog.
"Praising those who died" for compliance to the demands of the cult. No compassion ever from the JW organisation, more a celebration that it has the power over the life and death of its flock.
The post JW perspective is with eyes wide open.
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Update Please on Reasons for KH Sales
by snugglebunny ini've been out of the loop somewhere along the line.
the wt is trying to raise money i guess.
is this in anticipation of major pay-outs to child abuse victims?
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Half banana
You're right Beth Sarim, it is a cash and grab racket.
First they got the bros. to use only Watchtower funded insurance for each KH back in the early eighties, making it easier to get hold of the deeds or titles to all of the properties, which they did a bit later. By about 1986 they claimed ownership of all the KHs (and by so doing became a hierarchical religion or "organised religion" with centralised governance and ownership of all the assets--a thing they had railed against for decades in other organised religions). Then they announced their magnanimity in relieving the congregations of their mortgages to the society but demanded the same amount of payment in perpetuity. This situation then left the congregations with a permanent debt for the amount of their old mortgage even if they had just about paid it off-- plus the likelyhood of having the KH sold without either a say in the matter or any financial compensation. Aah but it's for the Kingdom............... or is it?
Now we are seeing the grab, selling off kingdom halls which they cunningly levered off the old congregations and creaming off the profits.
It a masterpiece of stealthy accounting tricks courtesy of the JW governing body.
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Update Please on Reasons for KH Sales
by snugglebunny ini've been out of the loop somewhere along the line.
the wt is trying to raise money i guess.
is this in anticipation of major pay-outs to child abuse victims?
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Half banana
When an organisation sells of its assets just to maintain its already reduced commitments, you know that something is seriously wrong with the financial health of that organisation.
What is at the heart of the JW delusion? It is a business at heart and that heart is dying.
It is inevitable that the negativity created by this situation will feed down from HQ to the rank and file and will greatly increase the number of leavers which in turn amplifies the problems.